Kontomble- Are you all scared?
Liv- They really really really admire honesty. And they’ll excavate for honesty and so the more honest we can get together, we’ll go further… deeper, more healing.
Kontomble- Are you scared? Are you petrified?
Group- yes. Yes. Soul shaking scared.
Liv- Don’t feel shy, I mean do feel shy, feel however you want to feel but don’t be afraid to jump in. Cause we’re all in this together. Yeah, yeah, we’re all in this together. Do feel shy or don’t feel shy, feel however you want to feel but know that you can just jump on in right now. No need to be polite right now.
Kontomble- (Asking Fox and Render) What is going on?
Render- We’re having a lot of grief here in our human world right now. A lot of people are feeling intensity and grief because of what’s happened with the election and it feels like, very shocking to a lot of people and very threatening to a huge number of people in our country. We are feeling grief, a lot of grief.
Kontomble- (To Fox and Render) The grief that you’re feeling, is no different than the grief that we’re feeling. Our grief is one in the same. Imagine this, imagine this…Imagine a population of Kontomble, give us different names if you want but we’re all Kontomble, also known as the little people, different populations of little people. We got pushed…
Liv- This is about to get deep. I don’t normally do this but I request that anyone on the line be prepared to get cozy in this energy, let’s plunge to the depths of the ocean, we have the capacity to plunge to the depths of the ocean. They are talking about the oppression…
Kontomble- The little people, got pushed down, pushed down, pushed down from the beginning. Pushed down, pushed down, pushed down from the beginning. And how do you think Nature feels about that? How do you think Nature feels about that? How do you think Nature feels about THAT? How do you think they feel right now? Do you think Nature knows about oppression?
Kontomble- The humans are the last of the Mohicans. They are the last tribe, the last tribe, that is experiencing the violence. How does it feel now? How does it feel now? How does it feel now? How does it feel NOW? The violence, the destruction.
Kontomble- How do you think the trees don’t feel? (Looking to trees, a 2,000 year old tree stump) How do you think that tree stump feels? Did you ask that tree stump? How do you think that tree stump feels? Did you ask that tree stump, how, what happened to you? And maybe might that same thing happen to me? Why not, why not, why not?
Kontomble- The sounds are sirening. The sounds are sirening. Human are experiencing this dichotomy really. Is another world possible? Another world is possible. Is another world possible? Another world is possible. Is another world possible? Another world is possible. Is another world possible? And you’re the ones, you’re the ones, you’re the ones who are going to decide that. Is another world possible? You’re the ones that are going to decide that. You are the ones deciding that.
Kontomble- Is another world possible? Is another world plausible? What do you think about another world?
Kontomble- What happened to this world in the first place? What happened to this world in the first place? Total world domination, annihilation… what happened to this world in the first place? Total world domination, annihilation… what happened to this world in the first place?
Kontomble- And meanwhile, meanwhile a daisy, a daisy makes its way, creeps up, cracks up through the concrete. (showing an image of daisy coming up with gunpowder around. Gun amo, there’s a gun that’s in the air) Rise up daisies, rise up! Rise up daisies, Rise up! Rise up through the concrete, rise UP! RISE UP! What’s it going to take to get you to rise up?!?! RISE UP! You know, no matter no matter no matter if you’re a daisy, do you know that you can rise up through the concrete! Do you know that there’s aisles and there’s spaces and there’s spaces and there’s crevices and there’s spaces. And all of a sudden seemingly dainty daisies have risen up through the concrete.
Liv- That’s what we’re doing right now. That’s what we’re doing right now. That’s what we’re doin right now. We’re literally rising up right now. Literally right now
Kontomble- Rise up daisy, rise up right now! What do you have to say? Speak to us! Speak to us!
Jeannette- Rise up, we will rise up. Kontomble we are doing what we can with our hearts. We are doing what we can to see our sun, to make beauty, to grow, to grow, in the right way with the Earth. We’re trying to but we’re full of sadness from what is happening around us. But we’re full of sadness we’re full of grief, and our children, I’m scared. I’m afraid for my children. I don’t know what to do.
Kontomble- (To Jeanette) That’s a pure plant, that’s a pure plant. By the way, how are your ancestors doing?
Liv- Here’s the thing Jeannette, what they’re saying to you, what they’re speaking to you. What they’re saying to you, what they’re speaking to you, can be applied to everybody on this call, myself included.
Kontomble- This is the energy of the cactus, this is the energy of the cactus. If you want to draw strength right now, go to the cactus. The cactus experiences all kinds of harsh conditions, a harsh climate, nothing any human would want to experience it’s very harsh. Potent medicine, potent medicine, potent medicine. Go, approach approach approach the energy, approach the medicine of the cactus.
Kontomble- Any of you want to know who Donald Trump is… If you want to know who Donald Trump is… he’s the puppet, the puppet, the puppet.
Liv- according to what they’re saying and showing, it’s almost like he’s not real. It’s almost like he’s a fictitious being. A fictitious being, a fictitious being, you know. It’s almost like if you push him too hard, it crumbles. It crumbles. There’s something about how if you push it too hard and it crumbles. It’s a fictitious being.
Kontomble- Why, why, why, why, why, why, why give so much energy to it? Why give so much power? It’s a fictitious being and you push it too hard and it crumbles. It crumbles! It crumbles! It crumbles!
Liv- I know. I hear you all on the other end of the line. You know that. I hear you and you know that. I hear you all, what do you know about that? What do you know about that? Speak it!
Papa Bear- That’s true, it’s true, it’s true! It’s an illusion! It really is. It’s all bull shit! It really is, it’s all manufactured bull shit to get everybody wound up. It really is.
Liv- I mean what they’re showing me, the visions that they show me in my head while they talk to all of you it’s like literally they show that if you poke it too hard it crumbles into dust. There’s nothing there. There’s nothing THERE!
Someone from the group- But people believe in him so that gives him an apparition like force.
Liv- Right? An apparition! Like you poke it, you push it too hard, like you got a float. It’s like a dummy. You push it too hard and it’s like that. That’s what they’re showing. And so it’s like let’s talk about Donald Trump because they say he’s like fictitious. He’s like a fictitious character. You know it’s like, let’s talk about Pinocchio. Let’s talk about Pinocchio. Let’s talk about Pinocchio. Why would be talking about Pinocchio? Why would be talking about Pinocchio? Why are we talking about Pinocchio? That’s what they’re saying about the energy, the entity, they are perceiving of him.
Kontomble- Not to say, not to say, not to say the threat, not to say the threat is not real. Not diminishing, not undermining that, not saying the threat is not real. THAT, the focus on THAT (Trump), that is a waste of time.
Kontomble- A better use of our time, our attention, our imagination, of our aptitude, our gifts… is to say what world are we creating? What world are we creating?
Kontomble- The dynasty has fallen, the dynasty has fallen. The dynasty has fallen, Atlantis has risen. The dynasty has fallen, Atlantis has risen.
Kontomble- Do you all know about Atlantis? Do you all know about Atlantis?
Jeannette- Tell us about Atlantis!!! The Mayans talk about Atlantis. The grandmothers came from there. The Mayans talk about Atlantis as the place where the first grandmothers and grandfathers came from. Across the sea from Atlantis.
Kontomble- The apparitions are falling. The dynasties are falling. The dynasty has fallen. The dynasty has fallen, Atlantis has risen. The dynasty has fallen. Atlantis has risen. Atlantis has risen. Atlantis has risen. Atlantis has risen.
Liv- that’s actually what they’re showing. That’s actually what they’re showing. That’s actually what they’re showing. And I’m seeing this as me as Liv and I’m like, oh shit, Atlantis has risen! It’s fascinating, this process, because from what they’re showing me right now, and maybe some of you on this call know. But what they’re showing me doesn’t look scary at all, it’s not annihilistic at all. It just, it doesn’t look, it just doesn’t. It looks rather promising actually. Because as I said again, from what they’re showing Donald Trump is like a puppet, he’s just related to a piñata. Literally you can hit him and candy comes out. Andy may fall out but nothing much else will fall out. That being in of itself is fictitious. Take it or leave it. Do whatever you want with it Meanwhile, what they’re showing spiritually speaking and this is actually quite compelling, because me as Liv, coming into a session, fuck I didn’t know what they were going to say! It could have looked like the Titanic is sinking. I had no idea. There was a little bit of fear, I had no idea. They could have said the Titanic is sinking, oh my god, we’re going down together, holding hands, playing music or whatever. Anyway but that’s not what they’re showing at all actually. That’s not what they’re showing at all actually and for any of you on the line who have worked with the Kontomble before, you know, that the Kontomble are not at all interested in appeasing us, at all, which can be hard bout working with the Kontomble. They’re interested in saying…
Kontomble- You want to do this truth journey? Let’s do this truth journey! What’s possible here? And by the way what’s possible here? And by the way what’s possible HERE? Actually, actually, actually, what’s possible here?
Liv- What’s possible here? I’m saying this in the moment. What’s possible here? What can we do here? Because whatever they’re showing me about what’s happening on the other side, the Otherworld, it’s not looking grotesque, it’s not looking scary, it’s not looking annihilistic. It’s not looking anything, anything, anything, like that. It’s actually looking rather the opposite. It’s looking so so so positive. So let’s talk about it. Let’s discuss. Let’s discuss. They’re really enjoying talking to people right now by the way. They enjoy talking, they want to talk to you.
April- I’m ready to roll up my sleeves Liv. I just wanted to say that I’m ready to roll up my sleeves and these small fears that I held up until last night almost diminished. And now there’s a bigger fear, that I feel like we’re all coming together for the conquered and it’s just an illusion, as you’ve mentioned on this call. So it feels like that. Right now I feel like I’m still processing things, like my body I in shock right now and my heart is still racing and I’m badly wanting to connect with community. I’m letting these olddddd layers of fear fall away and I’m onto the next set of fears. We’re all people.
Liv- Thank you so much for expressing yourself April. And, April, she’s badly expressed that she wants to connect with community. Is there anyone there that can echo back to her that they want to connect with her? It’s kind of like a vulnerable expression that she put out there. Is there anyone else that can echo back to her, that’s like girl we got you?
Group- Girl we got you (from a few)…yeah… YES…We’re all here with you… I love you guys. Welcome to the community, welcome to the community we’re here for you…We’re here for each other… and we’ll do our best man alongside the Kontomble and with our ancestors our collective ancestors and thank you Liv for holding the space for all of our voices to come through.
Liv- Right on! I could die a happy little human today. Not that I want to die today. But I could totally die a happy human today. I don’t want to die today necessarily but I would die a happy little human today. Because why else are we here? What are we doing here anyway? What are we doing here? Anyway April, I don’t want to interrupt you, so please love, keep talking.
April- I feel like that’s all that needed to come through in that moment. I feel like I’m emotionally, mentally, and physically processing and as much as I want to rise up there’s this human struggle and I’m still like trying to sift through and I don’t know. I think that’s all I got right now.
Liv- But that’s a lot. If that’s all you got, that’s a lot. If that’s all you got, that’s a lot!
Whatever we’re being told, and whatever we’re being shown is the complete opposite of the truth. Anything we’re being told or being shown, turn it on its head.
Liv- And so we’re being told this whole country is full of bigots, this whole country is misogynistic, turn it on its head. The actual truth is that this country is filled with people that love, people of diversity. Yeah, that’s what they’re showing. And like I said, I prefixed this to say, the Kontomble, as long as I worked with them, they’re not interested in protecting a person’s feelings, they’re just not. They’re interested in the truth. And that’s what I know about them, what I’ve experienced with them and time and time again that’s what makes them hard as fuck to work with because they don’t bowl through the status quo in any way, not like guides and angels and nice…. No it’s not nice. But they’re interested in the truth. So whatever they’re showing about what they see as the truth, whatever we’re being shown of this wrath and bigoted country, NO, turn that shit on its head, turn it inside out. What’s the opposite of that truth? The opposite of that truth is that we’re living in a country of people that are really really really kind and loving to people of all different nationalities, sexual orientations, bla la bla. Uh someone is hopefully on the line that’s staying with me. Papa Bear, that’s you, are you with me?
Liv- So what the Kontomble are saying and what the Kontomble as showing is, uhhhhh, we’ve been lied to so many fucking times before like oh my god how many times have we been lied to before? Do we not know the difference between a lie and a truth? Do we not know that in our internal beings? Every single one of us, we’re born with that birthright to know the difference between a lie and a truth. We do know that, we do know that, we know that. Every single one of us is born with that technology that’s in ourselves, inside of our beings, to know when a lie is being told and when the truth is standing up in front of us.
Kontomble-You all are going to have to be willing to turn this lie inside out. Turn this lie inside out. Turn it inside out. Turn that lie inside out. You have to turn that lie inside out. Your future depends on it. Your children’s future depends on it. Those masquerading as the truth, depend on it. And let’s go and let’s get deeper into it. And let’s go, and let’s get deeper into it.
Liv- Invitation for three questions. Let’s go let’s get deeper in this. It’s a passion. Let’s reveal the truth. It’s a passion of theirs. They’re interested in truth. I think we all are too probably. Why else would we be here? What else are we doing here anyway? Other than like wanting to uncover the truth.
Kontomble- Asking all of you or each of you, all of you or each of you, to, go in go in go in to yourself and reflect deeply, pull out your deepest truth and reveal that.
Liv- Are we not a group at this point? We’re a group at this point right? Let’s elect our people to come forward and ask pointed questions. Ask pointed questions. Ask whatever questions you want to ask based on the information or the guidance that they’ve shared with all of us. It seems important.
Kontomble- For starters we’ll say, for starters we’ll say the alphabet needs to be said, it needs to be spoken backwards in order to stay legitimate. The alphabet needs to be said, it needs to be spoken backwards in order to stay legitimate. This is the power of numbers. This is the power of opposites.
Liv- Something that the Kontomble have been teaching me about recently is that, nearly everything, seemingly nearly everything, you need to turn it on its head to find the truth. You know? Green is go… no actually red is go. You have to turn everything on its head to find the truth. Three questions from any of you, which is each of you, which is all of us.
Fox- Kontomble, all day I have been walking around thinking about the piles of ghosts, the piles on the backs of little boys. And so, little boys who become grown ass little boys. And so, I’m pleading with the Kontomble to help us know, find a way, to help get those ghosts off the bacs of little boys.
Liv- The way that he’s talking to them, it raptures them, it captures them. The way that we talk to them can affect the strength of how they answer.
Kontomble- Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, it’s important what you talk about, what you ask about Fox on the topic of ghosts. On the issue of ghosts. The ghost dance. The ghost dance. The skulls that were not tended. The skulls that were not tended, the skulls that were not tended. (Showing) Almost like a land post, something about the lineages, the natives of this land, are very effected effected effected about the way their altars were set up, about the way the energies would get mulched our churned in that process. The invader came in, the invader came in and tried to insert the alphabet. The invader came in and tried to insert the alphabet. Things have not been the same ever since. The question or the response now is, what, what are present day, what can our present day rituals that churn the mulch, these energies or entities.
Kontomble- (To Fox/everyone) The waters’ edge… The waters’ edge, the mighty Mississippi, the river’s edge. The threshold spaces, the threshold times, the sun’s about to rise. The sun’s about to set. You have the threshold space, you have the mighty Mississippi. The sun’s about to rise, the sun’s about to set. Abalone shell is what they want. Abalone shell is what they want. Abalone shell. It goes to the hungry. It goes, we miss the darkness. And also to the light. They (Kontomble) miss the spaces that are entirely dark and entirely light. A ritual at these threshold spaces with the abalone shells being offered into the mighty Mississippi, where it’s dark and it’s also light. It’s light that you’re working with. Expect a lot of change to happen there. Expect a lot of change to happen there. We understand it’s a mighty journey but it’s worth it.
Render- I have a question and I’m trying to drop as deeply into it as I can. I have been feeling so much grief about really coming to understand what life has been like for people of color in this country, for Muslims, for queer people, and the women really. I feel like there’s so much pain that’s happening in these communities. There’s so much surfacing now. I know that there’s so many people out there afraid for their bodily health and safety and safety in their communities and their families. My question for you Kontomble, is what can we do to bring hope to those people? What can we do to make them feel safe and empowered and what steps do we take to bring hope into those communities?
Kontomble- Your tears are our tears, your tears are our tears. We don’t mince our words, your tears are our tears. Do you not understand? Your tears are our tears. Your tears are our tears. Our, meaning the Kontomble, the Ancestors, Love, the Earth… your tears are our tears. This is a good question, all the questions are good questions, this is a good question. New technologies are being born.
Liv- Like what they were showing earlier, from what’s on the surface is absolutely opposite from what their seeing Spiritually, right? We are being lied to. When have we not been lied to? When did we not get lied to? Can somebody on the phone tell me a year we’ve not been lied to? And so, I made mention of this beforehand, they say what they want to, they’re not really peace keepers. They are saying what they see basically. Meanwhile, what they’re showing is looking wildly positive. They wouldn’t say that shit if they didn’t mean it. It’s like if they told me to go into the woods, I go into the woods, they’re not the kind of beings, there’s a plus and minus to it. The plus side of it, is whatever they’re saying, to you and to me and to all of us they mean. That’s the plus side of it. The plus side of it is that they mean, what they’re showing me spiritually speaking is that things are looking better than ever, spiritually spiritually. So where is the disconnect here? Where is the, what is it that we on this side are feeling like oh my god I want to hide myself under the covers and holy shit are we going to last another day? What they’re showing spiritually, things couldn’t look better. So what happened? That’s not a rhetorical question. What happened? And where’s the disconnect? Why are we thinking that it’s something else, why, why? Why? I don’t even need to answer the question. You answer the question! Why!?!
Someone from the group- We’re believing the fear. We’re believing the fear that’s being fed to us. It’s false and it’s not true.
Liv- Who fed us that fear? Who fed us that fear?
Someone from the group- Those that feed off the fear.
Liv- Where did the fear come from in the first place? Where did the, and I’m not saying answer this question that I see the answer. I’m actually asking where did it come from? I’m in the exploration with you.
Fox- I think that from A-Z, to start with Z, the whole machine, the media, these world powers, these international colonial empire forces, as the Z as not the A in this conversation, the question is who’s feeding us this fear and this false narrative.
Liv- Exactly, exactly, exactly. Yeah you heard it. Exactly. Before I tell you what they’re saying to you, actually, I don’t know that I’ve ever, the energy that they’re about to bring to you, I’m going to tell you that I don’t think I’ve ever, they’re extremely positive. The energy that they’re about to bring. I’m just going to say that. And I’m going to say.
Kontomble- Are you ready to receive the Otherworldy seeds that we’re sending to you? Are you ready to sing the notes of the new song? Are you ready to usher in the new era? Please say you’re ready for it because we’re ready for you. Are you ready for this?
Group- yes, yes, we’re ready, yes. YES!
Liv- The way it’s cracked open, all of the elements are beside themselves to be able to be like, woosh, the force is epic. And they’re saying are you ready? Are you ready?
Kontomble- You don’t know how long we’ve been waiting for this moment with the dirt and the lava and the energies are in there. And all of this is wide such that wahhh! You want to talk about a new, a new Son and a new Daughter rising right now.
Liv- Why are they on this call right now? Why? They’re there right now with us right now, They’re here.
Kontomble- Are you ready to rise? Are you ready to rise? Are you ready to rise? The conditions are just such. You’re ready to rise. Are you ready to rise? Are you ready to rise? The conditions are just such. You’re ready to riseeee!
Liv- And so everything that they’re saying and everything that they’re showing, every damn thing that you’ve been told… we all have been shown about this election… what they’re showing from the other side, the Otherworld. It’s so full, it’s actually fucking beautiful. It’s so beautiful. So beautiful. The towers have fallen, Atlantis is rising. Here we are. Why are we all on this call right now? Why?
Fox- Because we are the creators of the new Earth!
Liv- Right? Why, why, why? Why are these beautiful little beings, aka little people, aka Kontomble , aka momma’s children, aka daddy’s children… whatever you want to call them, they’re on the call right now. Why? Why?
One of the group- I think we must have forgotten a few things. We’re remembering!
Liv- Right, right? And that’s why they’re positive on the other side. Me as Liv, I don’t know, when I connect in with the Kontomble I have no effing idea what they’re going to say. And I have fear with that, like oh god, we’re going to open up this gate and I hold space and they’re like going to tell me oh my god the mountains are falling. That’s why I couldn’t get out of bed this morning. I had that fear, because I have no idea. But what they’re saying and what they’re showing is like, fucking hell it’s beautiful, it’s so beautiful! I can’t! If I could just beam this over to each of you, it is made of GOLD, it’s made of gold. It’s so beautiful, it’s so beautiful. We’re all in Atlantis together. It’s so beautiful. There’s room for one last question. Huddle up as a tribe and bring the representative forward.
Natalie- Kontomble, I have a question. We are warriors. And warriors stay calm in the chaos. What specific offerings do you want us to make, as we, as we as a collective birth this new way. Because we’re pregnant and we’re in the process of labor and birthing. And I know, I know it’s darkest before the dawn. And it’s time for the rising. And what specific offerings, very specific offerings, do you need from us so that we can continue to do the work and allow other warriors to awaken and rise up? It’s time. There’s no waiting anymore.
Liv- You know what? Speak what you know. Speak what you know. Speak what you know.
Natalie- I went to the redwoods today and I just sat there.
Liv- Speak what you know. I know you know so much. Speak what you know.
Natalie- I asked the ancestors how to continue to do the work inside. I asked the ancestors, my ancestors, about forgiveness and love and connection, walking through the fear instead of hiding from it. And listening to nature and not being afraid to be the bruja that I am. And knowing
Liv- Bruja!!! A witch. Isn’t that a witch!
Natalie- Being unapologetic about that.
Liv- yeah yeah yeah, don’t you forget it. You’re a powerful fucking witch. Speak it.
Natalie- Yeah, and I am reflecting that to others. That I can hold all, all of what they are, including the darkness that they’re too afraid to face. I think that the time is now that we integrate all darkness, all of everything, and stop hiding. And stop faking it, and be real. And not hold back. I sat by the redwoods today and yeah, the animals are not afraid. The dog I live with came into my room and just played with me. She knew I was sad and just made me laugh. The animals are not afraid. They know the truth.
Liv- That’s right. I know. I know, I know, I know. Natalie’s this bruja. Yeah a powerful witch you are. Yeah, yeah. And anything and everything you all have shared, you all hold in your heart. I really really believe that deeply. Any which one of you that has shared on this call, no matter if you haven’t spoke at all, you all carry this in your heart. I really really really deeply believe that. I really really really deeply believe that. And it goes back to what you’re saying Natalie about the animals and that, I think I mentioned this earlier, and when I was talking to my friend that’s on the land that it’s just like umm well what we’re all dealing with it’s like ask these trees if they know anything about that. They look like toothpicks. They’re not born, they’re not meant to be toothpicks, they’re meant to be stalky ass trees you know? Why are they toothpicks? Ask them what they know about oppression. Ask them what they know about oppression. If you asked these trees about what we’re about to talk about, they’d be like girllll, why didn’t you ask me a month ago. And so yes, state the question loud and clear. That’s what we’re going to close out with and I want to make sure that they answer you loud and clear.
Natalie- What are the offerings from us that you need going forward so that we can continue to awaken the warriors of light?
Kontomble- Don’t you want to say hello to us. Don’t you want to say hello to us.
Natalie- Hi! I said hello, that’s the first thing I said silly. Hello! Hello Kontomble!
Kontomble- What they’re saying to everyone on this call. Gather up your magick, gather up your brujerria, however you want to call it, medicine, gather up your magick . Gather it up, gather it up, gather it up! Your medicine bundle. Where did you get that medicine bundle from? You were BORN with that medicine bundle!!! You were born with that. You were born with that. There’s nowhere you needed to get it. You were born with that.
Papa Bear- YES!
Kontomble- Another way to say it to everyone is gather up your might. Gather up your power. Gather up your strength. However you do that. Do you do 40 sun salutations? Do you do three days of cleansing or fasting? Do you go and you sweat? Or you go and you laugh on the hill. However you do it, do it, do your medicine. Do your medicine. Do your practices. We’re waiting for you, we’re ready for you. We’re waiting for you, we’re ready for you. Gather up your medicine, gather up your steam, gather up your momentum, gather it up. Gather it up. We’re charging, we’re moving forward, we’re gathering momentum, we’re gathering speed. This is a mighty mighty time. Anything is possible, anything is possible. We’re in a cauldron of change, a cauldron of change.
Liv- Not any of it looks like doom and gloom. Not any of it looks like doom and gloom. Actually all of it looks might. Mighty, mighty, mighty, mighty, mighty. Potential. We’re harnessing in our medicine bags and I have this little thing I can do and I know I can do it and it’s in my bag but what am I going to do with it. Well now’s the time. Now’s the time. And why are we all gathered together. Well now’s the time.
Kontomble- We want a person to step forward from the tribe and surmise or extract what we’ve been expressing now and let’s close it out.